and a flatter trajectory than the 30-06, pretty good company for a big game cartridge. The 160 gr AB at 3000 fps is plenty for elk. Load Data . Go for it !!!! I am required to shoot over 1000 rifle rounds a year and keep MOA accuracy, so recoil flinching wont be a problem. The 280 AI gives you heavier bullet options than the .270 Win. vodekzz Post subject: Re: 280 ai going from 140 to 160 accubonds. 1/10 Mil at 1000 yards is 3.6”, and we are still fire forming brass! Select a light load of a relatively fast powder (IMR4895 is great) from the standard .280 Remington data. Mag. The Cooper Model 52C Custom Classic is available in .280 Ackley Improved. Hornady also loads for the .280 AI in the Precision Hunter, long-range-friendly line. I've looked 6.5x55 swede and it wasnt appealing. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. yet the .280 AI produced less recoil and muzzle blast and offered space for an additional round in the magazine. Energy: 1206 ft-lbs. Then consulted the calculator for 1000 yards. Drop at 1000 yards, 180s-24.2 MOA, 140s-20.9 MOA Drift at 1000 yards, 180s-5.3 MOA, 140s-6.2 Winds drift is what wins competitions and is the hardest environmental to adjust for when shooting BR/Fclass. If I get drawn, I plan on taking the 280 AI loaded up with eithrt the 140 gr AB or BT. Add to Buddy List. Also allows enough for refined holds out to 1000 easily. Drift at 1000: 63 inches. Loaded with a premium .284-diameter match projectile, such as Barnes Bullets's 171-grain Match Burner or Hornady's 162-grain A-Max, it comfortably gets the job done to 1,200 yards. it hasn't the bullet weight of the .30 cal', nor quite the velocity of the .270. it fits very well in the middle, however. I don't want to be under gunned in Fotis's antelope camp. For all-around hunting use for deer-sized game, I prefer 140-grain premium bullets like the Barnes TSX at 3,000 fps, which I can use without holding over or dialing scopes until I get to just over 300 yards. At 300 yards, the .280 AI with a 140-grainer delivers about 150 ft.-lbs. Available as component bullets or in factory loaded Precision Hunter ammunition. Dec 14, 2016 #4 I have a friend of mine that shoots the .280A.I.at 1000 yards. Thanks and Happy Hunting, Last edited: Jan 14, 2017. Although the 280 Remington was derived from the .30-06 case, it has a slightly different shoulder location and will not chamber in either .30-06 or 270 Winchester rifles. Noslers Rock. Send Private Message . Jan 14, 2017 #2 … The much more popular .270 Winchester performs similar to the .280. Accuracy and terminal performance are the cornerstones of Hornady ® Precision Hunter ® factory loaded ammunition. 1 Share this post. Reply. 175 grains, 2725 fps, .672 BC. I'm a big 7mm fan. It takes the 180g Hybrid only 300 yards to be better than the 140g bullet (1.3 vs 1.4 MOA). Let's assume that you are shooting a 6.5x284 with a 140 Hybrid at 3100. Report … The chart below compares how much a 10 mile per hour crosswind impacts those same .270 Winchester, .280 Remington, .280 AI, and 7mm Remington Magnum loads out to 500 yards. Link to post Share on other sites. 280 Ackley Improved Load Data; 7mm Winchester Short Magnum Load Data; 7mm Remington Magnum Load Data; 7mm Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Shooting Times Westerner (STW) Load Data; 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 28 Nosler Load Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data; 30-30 Winchester Load Data; 30/40 Krag Load Data ; 308 Marlin Express Load Data; 300 Savage Load … Top . hardcorehunter5 Post subject: Re: 280AI. more energy than the .280 Remington and about 150 ft.-lbs. PX … .280 Remington. Really makes me appreciate the high BC of those ELD-X's. It is very similar to the 7mm Rem Mag but in an '06 case. behind the .280 AI/Accubond combo at 500 yards, with probably 2/3 the recoil. My main question is, does the .300 WSM recoil similar to the .30/06 or closer to the .300 Win Mag? This new wildcat, which became known as the .280 Ackley Improved 40-Degree Shoulder, beat .280 Rem ballistics by about 100 fps, which gave it energy and trajectory figures that nipped at the heels of the 7mm Rem. 3300 fps Hammer for 1000 Yards Though Matt's Ackley has harvested its share of varmints, the gun was built with 1000-yard benchrest competition in mind. less than the 7mm Remington Magnum. Joined Mar 27, 2017 Messages 513 Location North Carolina. Now you know why Matt has a 40-power scope. Join the discussion. The ballistics are very similar. One of Parker Otto Ackley's first cartridges of the 1940s was the 7mm-06 Improved. They like a lot of jump too. Not looking to shoot 1000 yards. Find Members Posts. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last. H4831SC is a known performer with the 280AI and the 7 SAUM. shooterscalculator.com free. A light 2700 fps load will still take 950 foot pounds to 1000 yards with the 180 Berger VLD and make 1450 supersonic. Also, I question whether shooting at animals 1000 yards away is a wise thing. In was really hoping to have some on-game reviews after this late elk season, but that didn't pan out. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). The 6.5x284 takes less elevation … Shot a speed goat this fall in WY at 338 yds with the 140 gr AB at 3150 fps. TECHNICAL INFORMATION: While Nosler offers pre-formed 280 Ackley brass, you may want to form your own. There was not even a tenth Mil variation. I used it to put down my best rifle-killed buck ever at 175 yards — a rather long poke by central Wisconsin woodland standards. It has the least recoil, reaches far beyond any range I’d care to shoot, and ammunition is available in any gun shop around the globe. Members Profile. Center fire competitions are held at 300, 600 and 1000 yards. bullet, after 100 yards the 280 does deliver a bit more energy, does drift a little less in the wind, and after 400 yards does start to show just a smidgeon less drop. in terms of performance. Reactions: hdxr750. PX Member. Sniper & Sharpshooter … Capable of sending a 160-grain Nosler AccuBond downrange at roughly 2,800 fps, the .280 AI is about 100 fps faster than the standard .280, and just shy of the 7mm Mag. It is a favorite among mountain hunters, particular when elk, deer, sheep or goats challenge shooters with longer shots. Hornady's Joe Theilen shoots one in 1,000-yard benchrest competition with outstanding success. 600 / 1000 Yard Benchrest; 7mm RSAUM as a 1000yd gun; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. 280 Ackley Improved Rifle Cartridge. ShootDots . Noslers Rock. .280 Remington Trajectory. The 280 AI is pretty much a 7 Saum. 284 is a GREAT caliber. rifle looney . Jul 21, 2008 1,263 3 43 Elkton,Florida,USA. It is quite easy to see that the 7mm Remington Magnum case is … May 6, 2010 #6 Re: 284 Win -vs- 280 Rem If you got the stuff. Yep those targets (upper right) are 1000 yards away. Test Barrel (24") Muzzle. H4831 SC seems to be the go to powder with the 280 AI. Drop is easy to compensate for on a known distance range/competition, so I am less … 7mm Remington Magnum. 4 Replies 4 Participants Last post: Hypo Oct 9, 2016. Drop at 1000: 202 inches. bullets . I think you will be pleased. PowellSixO PowellSixO Advanced … I would not hesitate to use either cartridge for taking any hoofed game in North America. Reactions: hdxr750. 280 AI is only around 69-70 uncompressed. For propellants, RL19 or 4350 will usually give very good results. Top . My .280 load is Berger 7mm 180VLD 56gr RE22 @ 2765.That gets me 28MOA Elevation and 6MOA for a FV wind at 1000 Yards. Optics Master Joined: November/21/2008 Status: Offline Points: 2553 Post Options. Continue with Facebook. Mag. Mostly mule deer and whitetail. Velocity: 1762 fps. I’ve almost been talked into going to a long action for a new rifle build and the caliber that keeps coming up is 280 AI. Everything from 22 to 50-caliber is used, with the big bores in their own class. Perhaps the best balanced hunting cartridge ever produced, the .280 is elk medicine out to 800 yards. Gold $$ Contributor. Try loading them like .030" off the lands. Maybe I am stubborn but I so not build a competition gun unless I can start with Lapua brass in it. or sign up with email About this Discussion . Last year I built up a 280 AI for F-class using the original dimensions not the current SAAMI. Jan 2, 2019 #12 DangerRanger Senior Member. Quote rifle looney. Competitive bench rest shooters, F-Class Target shooters and military snipers can perform out to 1,000 yards and beyond, while specialized setups with shooting benches, wind socks, etc. But also notice that, due to its slightly higher B.C. They can be suited to lower powder use for varmint hunting, or custom fit on a 26 inch barrel for maximum velocity in hunting medium sized game. Forced to pick a magnum from this test, I’d stick with the ever popular 7mm Rem. Minuteman. However, lets assume that you are shooting a 280 AI with a 180 Hybrid at 2900. One is the aforementioned 140 grain AccuBond and the other a 150 … If so, we suggest the following procedure: Start with standard .280 Remington cases. alleycat. Save Share. The 300 Winchester Magnum was once popular as was the .30-338 Weatherby. At left is the firing line at Thunder Valley, Ohio. JD338 _____ Speed sells but Accuracy kills. 280ai if you want to shoot elk … I know he shoots the 183 SMK's and he uses H1000. Post Reply. The 280 AI is an awesome round. The .280 factory loads can be used on medium sized game up to 250 yards before a noticeable drop in wound penetration occurs. Looking for a caliber that's not a barrel burner has easy to find brass but is accurate and good to 1000 on game. I will be using non-lead bullets only, so I figure 140-150 grains for the .280AI and 150-180s for the .300WSM. I'm running 58.5 grains of H4831SC in my 7 SAUM, with the 162 ELDX, and have AWESOME results. Other bullet weights stack up about the same. They both go trans-sonic at about 1800 yards, your windage at 1800 yards is the same for both. Because the .280 can generate impressive velocities and still maintain good accuracy, it is one of our primary cartridges for 7mm production testing. 1 - 5 of 5 Posts. Those are only 100 ft. lbs. I will have to try and smoke a coyote or two this winter with them. can make hunting past 300 yards practical. JD338 _____ Speed sells but Accuracy kills. So similar, in fact that the windage at 1000 yards is the same. Exhibiting controlled expansion with a large mushroom and 85-90% retained weight, the bullet provides deep penetration and large cavities. 280 Remington 150 gr ELD-X® Precision Hunter® Item #81587 | 20/Box . Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you’ll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. As you can see, even though they have a very similar trajectory with both light and heavy for caliber bullets, the .280 Remington has a clear advantage over the .270 Winchester in terms of wind drift. Hand loading .280 brass can reach 3,100 ft/s (140 gr), 3,000 ft/s (150 gr). 250 yard zero gives me 2.4" high (max rise) at 165 yards, 2.4" low @ 300 yards. I shoot the 162 ELD Hornady match out of mine . mdesign Gunny Sergeant. Sweetening the deal even more, Ackley designed the cartridge … Not sure about the second rifle, maybe the 338 RUM with 300 gr AB's. Shoots .213" @ 100, 2.9" @ 926. Continue with Google. 6.5-284 is option with Cooper as well. The .280 Ackley Goes Mainstream . I think it's the best diameter bullet for 90% of what we do as hunters. 175 grains, 2875 fps, .672 BC. Here are the trajectory figures, based on a 200 yard zero: Muzzle: -1.5 inches; 100 yards: +1.2 inches; 200 yards: +/- 0 inches; 300 yards: -5.5 inches; 400 yards: -15.8 inches; To take advantage of the cartridge's MPBR (+/- 3"), sight-in the .28 Nosler 160 grain factory load to hit 2.39 inches high at 100 yards. the .280 is something of a compromise between the .30-06 and the .270, as i see it. So do I stick with the old 30-06 or 06 AI, go 280 AI or is the better option. Once get a load and bullet that works will likely stick with it forever. i mentioned the .308 because of the relatively broad range of bullet weights available for it that have very good ballistic co-efficients as well. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.