Custom barrels are 2-6 weeks out on average. tells us when all else is equal, the smaller cylinder is the stronger mags. and roasts out of big deer, black bear and elk...and they will punch .356 Winchester.358 Norma Magnum.358 Winchester.375 H&H Magnum.375 Ruger.375 Remington Ultra Magnum.375 Weatherby Magnum.375 Whelen (.375-06).375 Winchester.376 Steyr .378 Weatherby Magnum.38-40 Winchester.38-55 Winchester.40-60 Remington.400 H&H Magnum.400 Tembo.401 Winchester Self-Loading.404 Jeffery (10.75 x 73).405 Winchester.408 CheyTac.416 Barrett.416 … I worked up to the maximum charge of 50 grains of Hodgen Varget with no pressure signs. These are the only two used bolt action models I could find chambered for.358. The 350 Rigby Magnum. There are several choices of barrel contour, but Shaw requires a minimum number 2-1/2 contour for calibers between .323 and .375, so I selected that as my choice of contour. The ones I’m going to use for hunting I size and lube...then place them standing in water up to just above the shoulder and run the butane torch over the Whelen...(pgs 148/150) and states on pg 150 that in the open the 350 Rigby mag will take the dangerous game of Africa. Last edited by R_H_Clark; 10/22/18 . The concern is focused on the position of the “5” in “358” being lower than the “3” and “8”. In a day or so I had a return e-mail verifying the prices, along with shipping instructions. game, up to the size of elephant, rhino, hippo, cape buffalo and many other But it is a round nose at around 280 grains in weight. Mod.70 or Remington’s 700 or Ruger’s 77, are any less strong than their plethora of bullet weights and shapes to choose from. And Taylor talks of the 350 Rigby Magnum...which is a 60 grain cartridge case...like the that 150 grainer at over 3000 fps and setting the scope at five inches high at 35 - 284. give from 1350 to 1450fps with a 200 grain bullet. I know that just about every animal on earth, has fallen to the big bore handguns of today...so a rifle of the power potential of the 358 Win should easily take anything...and that’s true to a point. yards ...by actually shooting it is still 2.4 inches high at 200 yards...1.5 inches down at 300 yards and a little over a foot at 400 yards.....woods round my butt! Winchester cries for the 250 gr to 300 grs bullets in jacketed or cast for 358 winchester is the necked up version of 308. it uses .358 dia bullets. When I showed up at the neighborhood Fed-Ex office my problems began. H&H. First, get the manufacturer or gunsmith license number from the company you will ship to. Muzzle energy is almost 3600 lbs....a 30-06 has to work very hard to get even close to that kind of power. A group of four or five does trotted into view around 9:00 AM on Friday morning. great 358 Winchester cartridge and chambering is a real sleeper. I chose Varget because reloading manuals show it gives good velocities in the .358, and it is one of Hodgen's Extreme series of powders. The.358 Winchester has a stellar reputation as a premier large game hunting cartridge, especially in brushy or thick conditions. The Speer manual #13 Another option was one of the semi-custom makers like New Ultra Light Arms, but again we are looking at more than two grand. Basically like our 35 Whelen. Second, contact your local gun shop for recommendations on a shipping agent. I never went more than 5 yards to recover a deer with the 358 Remington RN or Protected point, all were discounted bullets. If you want to build a very powerful and compact rifle the .358 should be considered. I also wanted it to be short, handy, and reasonably lightweight, envisioning a powerful medium bore carbine. Certainly many deer have been cleanly harvested with the .243, .257, .260, and 7mm-08 calibers. It is best to contact them before placing the order so questions are answered and services clarified beforehand. bolt action like the fine Ruger mod.77 (Ruger made a limited run of these) and Corporation. Very nice war-firearm , - 24 inch barrel - Crown on it , Mark 1919 Shipping by Cod Canada Post at your fee ( 35-55 $ including box depend your location ) PAL Check Thanks... View Ad# 481901. securearmes Posted/Bumped 2 hours ago. I would consider this barrel length close to "optimum" in that it's plenty short enough for hunting in dense habitat and plenty long enough to capture most of the .358's practical ballistic capacity over the ranges it's best suited for (up to, say, 300 yards or so). 55,000 psi and sends that fine bullet over 2800 fps. They offer either chrome-moly or stainless steel barrels, and I selected stainless steel. scope site). 150 in his book, he talks about the very well known cartridge in Africa but The 358 winchester is a pre-expanded .308. energy....all light for elephant in the thick stuff...but they are not brush Remember of course, I am sold out to the 35 caliber...and that colors my thinking. That will certainly kill medium game animals out to 200 yards, but I expected more of a 7mm-08. The stainless steel action and laminated stock fit well with this goal. So it seemed like a logical choice for this rebarrel job. The .358 Winchester is based upon one of the most popular and abundant cartridge cases in the world, that being the .308 Winchester case, which itself is a shortened .30-06 case. (CBE P.O.BOX 269 MENAI CENTRAL N.S.W. The E.R. 44.66 oz. expansion ...yet the body is hard and will take high pressure and velocity without fouling....pushing these from the 358 Winchester cartridge at 2400 fps is a snap with H335, AA 2015, or 3031...accuracy is very fine. Because of this, in addition to the difficulty of even finding a used .358 rifle, they demand premium prices. Who writes this crapola? E.R. Others may prefer even more power with the likes of the .358 STA (.358-8mm Remington Magnum) or even the .358-300 RUM wildcat. T. Riekers Sporting Agency & Gun Works | Steve's It was an old military Savage Model 99F .358 Winchester 22" Barrel Lever Action Rifle 1956mfg ***SOLD*** Description: ***SOLD*** Savage Model 99F lever action rifle chambered in .358 Winchester, dated to 1956, 2nd year of production for the 99F. Whelen...but not really. to the 308 barrel bore.....I get the same jazz about my velocities in the .358 Winchester History The story of the.358 Winchester cartridge begins in 1955, 22 years before Ron made his choice in a new deer rifle. Has that ever been called short range? It’s just that John As I said it is versatile, powerful, and can be a light rifle for 95% of the game of the world.....what else could we ask for. Pushing the 250 grain Speer Grand Slam at 2400 fps with 44 grains of AA2015 gives a killing potential that is awesome on large game in the multi thousand pound class. they are cast fairly hard and the noses after sizing and lubing are de- at Home & in the Field. 30-06 . Just keep in mind that you may have to try several locations before you successfully ship your gun. On another forum there is an ongoing discussion regarding the “358” barrel stamp on the Pre-64 Model 70 358 WIN. 80 grains of ReL#15....But the well chambered 350 Rem/Mag from a 24 inch The .358 Win. inside the cartridge case. I have also heard that, as a general rule, UPS is easier to ship firearms with than Fed-Ex, although the shipper I finally went through was Fed-Ex. 19.0 inch medium contour. Re: 358 Winchester barrel length [ Re: skybuster20ga ] #13224208 10/22/18 !...how can the smaller 358 The It is easy to say that the .358 Win on the 308 case, is 15% below the The pressure everything....jacketed bullet use didn’t become common until we were well (PRI 10rd 6.8spc magazine's work unmodified, lancer 5.56 magazines also work with slight modifications) The 358 Yeti pushes a 180g projectile up to 2600fps from a 16" barrel and a 200g to 2500fps. Today’s handgun hunters have Shaw seemed to provide both reasonable cost and decent quality, so I selected them for the job. I had shipped it in mid-July, so that meant I should have it by early to mid-November. It simply did not live up to the round's reputation for accuracy. gives a load of 52 grs of H335 and a load of 45 grs of ReL#7 that pushes it If your rifle is a single-shot, or will accept longer cartridge lengths, this bullet is an excellent choice for the 358 Win. It was written Sixguns |  The Art of John Dietz as the old 35 Whelen, 350 Rigby Magnum, and the British loaded (cordite) 375 medium soft in the body for this velocity, and completely soft in the It was exhausting but happy work. Savage Model 99 Series A,358 Win,24" Barrel,Press Checkered Stock,Aluminum Counter,Mint Condition, 99% Bluing,99% Wood Except there is a Flaw at Forend Screw See Picture, David Royal 99 Book Says ...Click for more info. muzzle threaded 5/8-24. going strong...and my favorite load with the Speer 180 grain FlatSP...pushes Whelen. It drops at 290+ grains But a .358 is a hunting rifle for game like deer, elk, and bear, not a target rifle. ARCHIVED; DangerMouse. I left the bolt in the action so the headspace could be properly set. In my 358 notes I show a load of 54.5 grains of H335 under the Speer 180 grain 35-Flat SP gives over 2850 fps! tempered they make exceptionally good hunting bullets. The.358 runs anywhere from 100 to 300 fps behind the velocities of the.308 Winchester, approximately 600 fps behind the.300 Winchester Magnum and 250 to 350 fps behind the.338 Winchester Magnum. back in the 1980s. I had several goals in mind for a .358 for which the Ruger Compact seemed particularly suited. Browning BBR Made in Japan cal. Winchester model 70 rifles in .358 are usually pre-64 models and go for $1500 and up. Finally, I wanted controlled round feed, which the Ruger Mk. ft.lbs of muzzle energy. Barrels in these calibers are intended to be handload-only. With this load I am getting just over 2400 fps, which should be fully adequate for anything on this continent, except perhaps large brown bears. 2 Reviews. Whelen...in power potential. make the most picky shooter happy. I have shot deer with the 308, 150 gr Barnes x bullet and had to go 50 to 70 yards in a cornfield to recover it. Loads that put the 9.3 in the same killing levels I prefer bolt action and single shot rifles because of their simplicity and ease of cleaning. range was around 200 yards on the outside. Heavy cast I worked with a Dremel tool and some sand paper. heaviest 35 caliber mold I have is a custom Hock 350 grainer of my design from processes, etc..... Do you think Using a commercial Mauser action, I had a 23 inch .358 barrel with a 1 in 10 twist mounted with a medium weight and taper....a good hunk of straight grain American walnut cut in a classic stock shape with a 13 and ½ inch length of pull. Costs for the project were as follows: $200 for the barrel, $60 for installation, $75 for fluting the barrel, and $23 for shipping. The same But the 358 I finally contacted my local gun shop, which recommended a nearby shipping agent who understood the regulations, and I shipped it from there. because the rifle was very small. good accuracy with at any decent velocity....it looks like a rifle bullet, but Seller: Long Shot Inc . Montana bullets were used first on everything...man, animals, in wars, hunting, But the 358 will do it with less powder, shorter actions, shorter brass, and shorter barrels than the 30-06. I cast them potential is there if needed. But the big bore handguns or even the 358 Winchester heavy loaded are not what I want if a cape buff decides he thinks I would make a good component of a mud hole. Looks like it's just a barrel swap for the ar10 or I could even build an upper for my Armalite . (Without fluting it could have been done for $283.) It might sound like at this point I had too much of the same thing a 358 Win and a 35 Why do people who have never shot it think it is not powerful or more than adequate? cherry and produce a mold to your own design...I have a few of those. This has become my favorite brand of recoil pad, and I have since installed it on some of my other rifles as well. Repeating Arms Co.  That’s a 375 H&H 235 grain bullet The Ruger Compact also allowed me to meet this goal. We recommend full length sizing when reloading for lever action rifles. But I wanted this rifle for hunting, not collecting. heavy game and 180 to 220 grs for the medium game...the 150 to 165 grs for Fluting is an option, either straight or helical. Since I expected the .358 to kick harder than the 7mm-08, I also took this opportunity to install a pre-fit Limb-Saver recoil pad. rifle gas.750 gas block size. Been there, as so many others have. Needless to say, the rest of the day was spent skinning and packaging venison for the freezer. The expansion ratio for a 35 caliber makes the 20 inch II Compact in 7mm-08 that I could never get to shoot well. The least I can say about 35 Whelen is that it is actually one of the finest all around cartridges to be developed. My smallest group was 1.1 inches and largest was 1.9 inches. South Wales, but don’t let that bother you their turn around order time is The.308 is an extremely versatile cartridge, noteworthy for both its great performance at close ranges and from a short barrel, but also for its abilities at extended ranges. best loads I can find with the 250 grain Barnes bullet from the Barnes book grs to 300+grs. my first book on leverguns that using a Remington 150 grain spire point .358 Is the 358 better than the 30-06? I had read some articles by writers like Ken Waters and Jon Sundra who had used Shaw barrels, and they seemed happy with them. | Friends of Billy Dixon under loaded round. The ballisticians at Winchester began with their.308 Winchester case and necked it up to accept.358” diameter bullets. Now it was time to prepare the rifle for shipping. very large, and hard to stop animals. 350 Rigby..nonMag) What’s all this got to do with the 358 Winchester round? It is a short, handy rifle, unlike the .300 and .338 magnums. great cast .358 bullet for me in rifles is the 3589 Lyman (it’s now numbered I’m not saying the 358 Win won’t take such game I just want to put it into real perspective. thing happened to the 307 and 356 Winchester cartridges and chamberings, in Use the chart below to select the caliber & twist rate for your Shaw custom rifle barrel. The mold is gorgeous, made from pure brass...two stay inside any animal harvested with it. This one started life as an excellent used.35 Rem. It took a few evenings of work, but I finally got the stock fitted. Do you think the actions on the belted magnum bolt rifles like Winchester the H&H case? Bullet Works | Gunblast.Com  | No it was basically a 35 Whelen of the times. lesson in pressure again...most reloading manuals keep the 358 at about 47,000 Created in 1866 by Oliver Winchester, the brand is now legendary amongst firearm enthusiasts. I shot the first two does in line before the others headed off. I began to look online at various rifle barrel manufacturers. Since I wanted to use the rifle for the upcoming deer season, I reloaded some cartridges with Hornady 180 grain PSP bullets. Shaw had specified the turnaround time as 14 to 16 weeks. Win do 2400+ fps? The muzzle was nicely crowned. 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